They say that those who delivered the Quran to us are our ancestors, right?
Yes, that is correct.
Well, I have an inquiry here.
Go ahead.
Which ancestors exactly delivered it? Was it our Sunni ancestors or our Shia ancestors? Knowing that both sects excommunicate (takfir) each other, and the "trustworthy" men according to Sunnis are considered heretics by Shias, and vice versa. So, which Hadiths are correct?
Is it the Hadiths that Shias believe in, which they consider authentic and whose narrators they deem trustworthy?
Or is it the Hadiths that Sunnis believe in, whose narrators they also deem trustworthy?
The "trustworthy" narrators for Sunnis are heretics for Shias. And the "trustworthy" narrators for Shias are heretics for Sunnis.
Meanwhile, both sects agree on the Quran.
So how can God's Book be compared to disputed Hadith books—books that they claim were delivered by the same people who delivered the Quran?
This is a false claim and an attack on the Quran itself.
How so? Can you clarify?
Because they linked the validity of the Quran to the validity of the chains of narration (Isnad) and the reliability of those who transmitted it. Since the narrations they delivered contain the authentic, the weak, and the fabricated—and are still undergoing refinement even today—then according to their theory of "transmission method," the Quran would also be subject to doubt.
If the Hadiths (or what they call the "Second Revelation") contain fabrications, then the First Revelation (the Quran) would necessarily contain fabrications too, based on their logic. Do they have the audacity to claim the Quran is subject to doubt?! Unless they equate Hadiths with the Quran and place them on the same level, even though Allah says: (Say, "If mankind and the jinn were to gather in order to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce the like of it").
The Quran was read aloud to the entire Ummah, was possessed by everyone, and was recited from generation to generation. This is in contrast to the Hadiths, which were only held by those who personally heard them from the Prophet.
And here I have another inquiry on this subject.
Go ahead.
There are Hadiths narrated by only one companion. For example, the companion Abu Hurairah narrated more than five thousand Hadiths.
Yes, that's true.
So, the companion Abu Hurairah is credited with a great favor to Islam. Without him, we would have lost more than five thousand Hadiths, equivalent to half of the "Second Revelation." Imagine if this companion had died immediately after the Prophet's death—meaning before he could narrate these Hadiths to others. What would have happened?
We would have lost more than half of the Second Revelation.
Does this theory work with the Quran?
Is there a single companion, or ten, or even a hundred companions, without whom we would have lost even one single verse of God's Book?
If the answer is yes, then this is a denial of God and His Book, which says: (Indeed, it is We who sent down the message [the Quran] and indeed, We will be its guardian).
If the answer is no, then the theory and the argument that "those who delivered the Quran are the same who delivered the Hadiths" has collapsed.